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Andrew Currall's avatar

I'm not sure it's really possible to put the cat back in the bag. The problem is not free-speech policy per se, it's the technology. If you let youtube et al restrict the influence of crazies, and they do, people will just find another platform that doesn't. If the market demands something, you're not going, ultimately, to find the market refusing to provide it.

You either abandon the whole concept of free-speech, even at a state level, and have government censorship everywhere; or you let people decide what speech they want to consume (and they'll consume rubbish). "Gentleman's agreement" gatekeeping only worked in the days of print media with relatively large barriers to entry that enforced a certain level of competence. Also, there's a vicious-circle effect where you can keep, say, vaccine phobia, down in a market while relatively few people believe it, so there isn't much demand for it; but once belief exeeds a certain level, it's almost impossible to stop because there is enough money to be made in promoting it.

And I'm not sure how you're going to get government censorship anyway, even if you want it. The government is elected by the same idiots who believe all this rubbish. So that will basically amount to censorship of unpopular views. Which isn't helpful becauase false unpopular views aren't really a problem, and true unpopular views very much need to be aired.

Noah Carl's avatar

"We’ve seen a move away from trans extremism and BLM excesses – albeit with right-wing pressure having had an influence".

"albeit" seems to be understating it. What evidence is there that the move away from trans extremism and BLM excesses would have have happened without right-wing pressure?

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