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Kira's avatar
Oct 1Edited

I agree with what you're saying, but I don't agree with your solution. How would Democrats changing the 'perception' of themselves help with this problem when the entire point is that Republicans will lie about whatever they're doing? Why should any non-Republican bother to bow and compromise and self-censor when no matter what they do, they'll be regarded as a radical left communist marxist for disagreeing with Republican power in any way? If we're at the point where Chuck Schumer is regarded as a radical leftist communist fighting for illegal immigrants, why should Democrats play ball with that rhetoric at all?

I think the bad information environment enables Mamdani types much more than it encourages any kind of Democratic moderation. Compromise is death in this environment and heartfelt authentic extremism is good. This is essentially what happened to the right during Wokeism - a lot of far-right types realized that if they were was going to be called racist nazis for running moderate Republican positions, they might as well actually run as racist nazis and win people over with the unfiltered version of their ideas.

I think we'll probably see a similar thing with leftist ideas over time. Fewer Chuck Schumers, more AoCs and Mamdani types, authentically pushing their ideas until the entire anti-Trump coalition is ruled by a more extreme leftist base. What is the actual benefit to being a moderate when the enemy will lie about your positions to paint you as an extremist regardless? Better to be an extremist and gain points for owning your enemy's taunts and audaciously telling the truth. "Yes, I want to defend immigrants. We all should, because we're not monsters" is a cleaner message than whining about your enemy's lies.

For the country's sake, I do think we need to find a way to punish this kind of brazen sensationalized lying by politicians and media. This was much less bad under the old Mainstream Media regime, and brazen lying by politicians to the press was much harder to do and more severely punished when it was discovered. The internet and new media upset this balance and social media in particular is one giant liar's competition. I'd be really interested in a party (or a writer) that offered ideas for how a more fair and reasonable information environment could be achieved.

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Well, if one means economic ideas that sound good, i.e., "free stuff for me," then I suppose this may be true: "If people voted on economic issues, they would overwhelmingly elect Democrats over Republicans." But if one means economic policies that actually work for a prosperous, healthy society, then not so much.

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