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This is a good piece.

I feel it would be even better if you put data from how more illiberal countries fight these kind of wars. For instance, the Russian actions in Chechenya, or Chinese actions in Xinjiang (no war there). Separatist insurgencies in Pakistan. Examples from Africa, like the fight against the jihadists in Mali. Egyptians fighting ISIS/AQ in Sinai (with the help of Israel). And so on. I would guess you are right and that countries like the US and Israel are far more benevolent than those countries. Also, it would be better if you put more data on the success rate of countries like the US and Israel compared to the success rate of more illiberal countries.

Also "this is primarily due to Israel facing a lot more scrutiny than most other nations would under similar circumstances" - that is definitely a factor, but I wonder if there are other causes. Israel is generally liberal, and there are Jewish tendencies or at least Ashkenazi tendencies toward liberalism, whether because of high IQ, verbal tilt, the Holocaust, historic persecution by Christians, secularism, the theological value of life in the Jewish religion, and so on. Or maybe it's that Zionism was founded as a liberal movement, or something else. I wonder how you would measure that. Obviously the McDonald point that "liberalism is a Jewish conspiracy to undermine Western civilization" is false and has never been disproved more conclusively than now with woke leftists and BLM cheering for Hamas. Israel has no death penalty (they executed 2 people ever, and haven't in decades), which is also a bit surprising a priori. Jewish bioethics are very pro-IVF and pro embryo selection (pre-implanted embryo is like water, and "playing god" is good because man is in god's image) but anti death-penalty and anti-euthanasia, so they are "pro-life" in some sense. See also Israel's pro-natalism.

It does seem to be true that Israel is generally pretty restrained. Exactly how much and why would be interesting things to study. Is it more restrained that other liberal democracies? How would one go about distinguishing between the various hypotheses and establishing the cause? I guess a good place to start be that you could look at various demographics in Israel and their support for restraint, and what causes this. And which political leaders support it, and how they are receptive to public opinion.

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Rob P's avatar

In the specific case of the threat Israel faces from Gaza, it seems like they could have prevented the vast majority of casualties from this kind of attack by better securing the border with Gaza. The military outposts in the area were caught flat-footed, which presumably won't happen again. The rocket attacks by themselves are a small threat to Israel--even before the Iron Dome, they caused few casualties. The scale of the casualties Israel faced in the most recent attacks were caused by Netanyahu's catastrophic incompetence more than Hamas being a true existential threat. If the IDF had invested more resources in defending the area near Gaza and less defending settlers in the West Bank, Hamas' attack couldn't have been nearly as disastrous.

The true existential threat to Israel is its increasing loss of legitimacy in the eyes of the world, particularly the younger generations in the West. Western countries treating Israel more like South Africa once the boomers die off and are replaced by a younger generation much less sympathetic to Israel is a much greater threat than Islamic militants.

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