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Steve Estes's avatar

"I don’t see why sports gambling is all that different."

Because it's addictive, Richard. That's the difference with amusement parks, or television, or other forms of entertainment. It creates compulsive behavior that is fundamentally irrational. Even when people want to stop, they convince themselves they can't, or convince themselves that a big win that will even their ledger is just another play away. That's why it was regulated akin to cigarettes and alcohol (wherein the physical harms are more obvious, but the financial harm has an upper bound, whereas the same is not true of gambling). That's the justification for government interference and not just leaving it up to individuals, especially when there's a whole industry very carefully optimized to induce you to become addicted and stay addicted.

You can't look at, say, the trend in smoking rate in this country over the last 40-odd years since the government got involved, and conclude that society isn't better off for it. Many more people are alive, and those alive are much more healthy, as a result of that gap between then and now. And given the 50 years previous to that, as far as public health is concerned, it was clear it wasn't a problem that was going to solve itself. Mere information is not sufficient, society needs to *help people* on these matters, and stop bad actors from bad acts. Like getting 15-year-olds addicted to smoking.

Same with sports betting. It's not "theoretical harm" that we're afraid of, as you wrote - it's very tangible (and immediate, as opposed to saving the seals or whatever). As Gregg Easterbrook used to say, his compromise with his Baptist upbringing is to be pro-topless but anti-gambling. I can support that position, because one of them is harmful beyond all measure of an individual's ability to self-regulate, and the other basically isn't at all.

It's pretty easy IMO to draw a line on government regulation that recognizes the difference, and sports betting will definitely be on the "regulate it" side of the line that most reasonable people would draw. For me, it's pretty easy to even note the difference between prediction markets and sports betting, because the former has longer-term deals and is mostly zero-sum between participants (and they're not opposed to having winners), while the latter can give you that dopamine hit multiple times a day if you're super into it. It's really only a comparison to the extent that both involve a wager. So does the stock market, and we obviously regulate that but just as obviously, don't ban it. So it should be here.

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GenXSimp's avatar

Rationality is also a vibe. There are trade-offs and the most important thing isn't to always come down on the side of people can make their own mistakes, but on the side of we are explicit about the trade offs and we are making a decision based on what we think they are and are willing to reconsider when the data changes. We should look at regulating vice as a series of trade-offs. How harmful is the vice? how many people would do it if it was advertised like Coke? How long has it been part of our culture? How hard is it to enforce a prohabition? What are the different types of reglatory regemes that would reduce harm? What is the smallest amount of regulation that would reduce harm to the greatest extent? What is easy to enfornce? Ban advertising for sports gambiling, might be an okay policy, the fixes things with a minimal effects on freedom. Sports teams should not be able to mention it or be sponsored by it. Another possibility is maybe it's legal but you need to go in person to vegas to do it. Policies have trade-offs, moralizing freedom is the same as moralizing against vice, it fails to recognize trade-offs. So just be an adult and make rational decisions that recognize the trade-offs. Figure out what data would change your mind before a policy is rolled out.

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