The purpose of ICE is what it does. It doesn't stop Somali fraud; it doesn't stop employers from hiring illegals; it doesn't make the country even 1% whiter. It creates violence in the streets for the Schadenfreude of MAGA. That is its purpose.
The right-wing believes that it is the left which is throwing a temper tantrum in response to ICE. But the ICE deployment is, itself, a temper tantrum. As you note, a combination of e-verify, welfare reform, and high-tech border patrol would result in millions of cheaper self-deportations.
But MAGA doesn't want that. They aren't mad at Trump for ignoring those *logical* policies, because being anti-immigrant is just an excuse to slam people on the ground and shoot protestors in the face. That's the real goal.
Hating immigrants is just a justification for a wider all-inclusive underlying sadism directed at "elites" and "public school teachers" and "lesbians" and "rich women." It's circular reasoning: they hate immigrants because immigrants vote Democrat; they hate Democrats because they let in the immigrants. The rationality of a 5 year old biting and kicking at his mom, but with the adult danger of a loaded gun.
One sided biased opinion piece. 77 MILLION CITIZENS VOTED TO REMOVE EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL. Now the fraud of our taxpayer money is more of a reason to deport even legal migrants committing fraud against the voters.
You are NOT one of millions that believe in following the laws of this nation.
If they truly voted to remove every single illegal (they did not), then why are you wasting resources shooting white women to death in states with low numbers of illegal immigrants, rather than focusing on border states like Texas with high numbers of illegal immigrants working in agriculture?
Because he is low human capital, intellectually dishonest, and driven by anger and petty jealousies rather than a productive, value-creating worldview.
That creature is probably a woman and a Hispanic given its name. Which shows that these tendencies go beyond gender and a lot of Hispanics are white supremacists now.
And? Where does this nonsense deal with what I said? Why put ICE in Minneapolis, where they a) aren't wanted, and b) there are few illegals, rather than focus on Texas where they a) are wanted, and b) there are lots of illegals?
They were not wasting resources on shooting white women who were going along with their daily life. Renee Good wilfully endangered an ICE officer who was working in a semi-seditious city. There are no sanctuary cities in Texas.
I don't think I know all the relevant facts, but Richard always seems to think he knows, and I don't know how he would know. What seems clear is that another Democratically-run city thinks they should flout the law. They are not protesting the ICE means of arrest, which might have some validity. They are protesting every single premise and act of ICE. The Dems create these problems, provide sanctuary for illegals, explicitly denounce the rule of law, support protestors who interfere with the rule of law, side with those who interfere with the law, and cultivate an atmosphere that is hostile to the rule of law, and will inspire more leftist crazies to commit violence and assassination in the name of "values" as they say. The left manipulates all reality, including language to undermine the law. If the left were silent and lawful there would be nothing to see.
I do know that—but it appears you're too intellectually limited to realize your entire diatribe applies to Trump and the GOP, who proactively PARDONED the people exhibiting the very type of behavior you denounce. Not a single Dem went that far lmaooooo
Years ago my libertarian mentor argued that forcing races together via mass immigration often creates friction and this is what we see. To be clear, I’m not arguing it’s remotely as bad as many conservatives claim (i.e., we do not see Balkanization), but the fact that it’s an important political issue across the West proves his point well enough. Woke folks react to this racial friction by declaring that racism is “immoral” and commit to endless social engineering and moral browbeating to (finally!) bring it to an end. In this regard they are like conservatives who want to stamp out porn.
Hanania says he’s fine with “personal” racism but, oddly, also argues, like many woke folks, that racism is stupid because it’s based on “superficial” physical traits; yet, he will also defend women who choose mates based on “superficial” traits like height, so his argument is plainly contradictory. He probably doesnt see the contradiction because he likely thinks personal choices are different from banning immigrants; therefore, elites need to enforce their preferences as a form of paternalism in the name of immigrant rights. However, this ignores the fundamental question: Who owns the streets/roads?
Although Hanania is libertarian adjacent, he tends to think in collectivist terms when it comes to what national policies should be pursued under statism. Therefore, the question of who owns the streets is neither here nor there for him, as “liberal” values/anti-racism supersede such concerns when you are not fully libertarian. This opens the door to imposing one’s own policy preferences in the name of “liberalism” without regard for property rights. In this sense, he is like liberals who talk about a “right” to healthcare, state-enforced equal opportunity, etc. without seeking to square it with a coherent view of liberty overall.
Hanania will no doubt argue that of course you can control who enters your home/yard (in order to exercise your superficial and stupid personal racism), but doesn’t explain why property rights don’t include the streets/roads. Being a statist (even a neoliberal one) means you can bypass such concerns to impose your own preferences while morally browbeating others.
This is no defense of ICE but the anti-immigration cause is not without merit within a libertarian framework.
I still come back to this being a race issue—white privilege, a term I normally hate, applies. All the other commentary falls from this. You’ve obstructed and taunted and are now being approached by armed law enforcement. If you are a POC (another term I hate but works here) you know what to do. Freeze and hands on the dashboard. It’s only from the sense of entitlement that make you think you can drive away with an armed officer anywhere near your path. Regardless of how you feel about the overall ICE actions or protesters what she did was terminally dumb.
Obama gave Tom Homan top honours and a medal in 2015 for the same work. Now Dems call Homan and his dept evil cuz he now has a boss they hate. Terrible hypocrisy. Radicals cycling through positions trying to take down Trump are neurotic and destructive.
People protested ICE back in the day under Obama; yes, it was harder to get people to protest them because it was a Dem President, and Dems are perceived as "better" on immigration. However, the people who protested ICE under Obama did not get shot in the head, so he had that going for him.
Obstruction, threats, incitement, and violence are not protest. Anti-ICE criminality is obviously a problem. This is just your new anti-racism hysteria. Dem strategy of open borders insanity as a base-building method is treachery. Left wing extremist activity and systemic indoctrination into anti-western ideologies have both skyrocketed since 2015. You all got wayyyy too radical for the majority to stomach.
Multiple polls show the majority of people think that Renee Good was an unjustified shooting - and 70-80+% of the population have seen the video! - but just repeat your talking points I guess.
The lies and hysteria began almost immediately— Trump declaring the ICE agent was in the hospital, Vance declaring it was self-defense, Noem declaring ICE has complete immunity and media pretending the videos didn’t show what they obviously did show.
But we have a significant segment of the country primed for this justification of violence and glorification of vigilante justice. Punishment for “not following orders” and men dressed in riot gear with faces masked has been normalized. Does no one remember the draconian, irrational rules during covid and the public shaming, violence (in some cases) and complete intolerance for disagreement?
It’s the same playbook but now directed at anyone who dares question the methods employed to enforce immigration laws without losing their mind and shooting someone.
Do not obstruct LEOs. Protest peacefully and lawfully. That's literally all you have to do to prevent future incidents like this one. Why can't you manage that? You seem to want death, insurrection, and civil war. It is awful to watch leftists spinning out of control like this. Seek and teach temperance.
Dr Naomi Wolf remains a feminist who believes in a woman's right to choose to remain pregnant too and when the evidence was clear that Covid vaccinations were increasing the rate of miscarriage across a number of countries she stood by her principles and spoke up.
Excellent post, although I'm unconvinced by the last sentence. I would change: "Whoever is coming next will be, by necessity, smarter than Trump" to "Whoever is coming next will *likely* be, by *default*, smarter than Trump"
And I'm not trying to be funny/petty! I think it is both unnecessary for the successor to be smart (as pathos is the defining feature of the movement) AND that the successor will probably be smarter given the baseline. In a perverse way, we were lucky Trump is such a shallow thinker. He's not as dangerous as a calculating dictator like Putin or Assad would have been in the same scenario.
The purpose of ICE is what it does. It doesn't stop Somali fraud; it doesn't stop employers from hiring illegals; it doesn't make the country even 1% whiter. It creates violence in the streets for the Schadenfreude of MAGA. That is its purpose.
The right-wing believes that it is the left which is throwing a temper tantrum in response to ICE. But the ICE deployment is, itself, a temper tantrum. As you note, a combination of e-verify, welfare reform, and high-tech border patrol would result in millions of cheaper self-deportations.
But MAGA doesn't want that. They aren't mad at Trump for ignoring those *logical* policies, because being anti-immigrant is just an excuse to slam people on the ground and shoot protestors in the face. That's the real goal.
Hating immigrants is just a justification for a wider all-inclusive underlying sadism directed at "elites" and "public school teachers" and "lesbians" and "rich women." It's circular reasoning: they hate immigrants because immigrants vote Democrat; they hate Democrats because they let in the immigrants. The rationality of a 5 year old biting and kicking at his mom, but with the adult danger of a loaded gun.
If immigrants voted majority Republican, Democrats would have never let them in.
One sided biased opinion piece. 77 MILLION CITIZENS VOTED TO REMOVE EVERY SINGLE ILLEGAL. Now the fraud of our taxpayer money is more of a reason to deport even legal migrants committing fraud against the voters.
You are NOT one of millions that believe in following the laws of this nation.
If they truly voted to remove every single illegal (they did not), then why are you wasting resources shooting white women to death in states with low numbers of illegal immigrants, rather than focusing on border states like Texas with high numbers of illegal immigrants working in agriculture?
Because he is low human capital, intellectually dishonest, and driven by anger and petty jealousies rather than a productive, value-creating worldview.
That creature is probably a woman and a Hispanic given its name. Which shows that these tendencies go beyond gender and a lot of Hispanics are white supremacists now.
lollll
Renee Good's explicit purpose was to obstruct lawful ICE activity. Besides, her lesbian partner egged her on as in "drive, baby, drive".
And? Where does this nonsense deal with what I said? Why put ICE in Minneapolis, where they a) aren't wanted, and b) there are few illegals, rather than focus on Texas where they a) are wanted, and b) there are lots of illegals?
They were not wasting resources on shooting white women who were going along with their daily life. Renee Good wilfully endangered an ICE officer who was working in a semi-seditious city. There are no sanctuary cities in Texas.
"remove every single illegal" was not on the ballot in 2024 any more than "four years open borders" was on it in 2020. don't be a moron.
You obviously can’t read and didn’t read. 90% of the Somali-Americans in Minnesota are citizens.
ICE can’t deport legal migrants on their own, and they can’t determine which of them committed fraud without their going through the judicial system.
I don't think I know all the relevant facts, but Richard always seems to think he knows, and I don't know how he would know. What seems clear is that another Democratically-run city thinks they should flout the law. They are not protesting the ICE means of arrest, which might have some validity. They are protesting every single premise and act of ICE. The Dems create these problems, provide sanctuary for illegals, explicitly denounce the rule of law, support protestors who interfere with the rule of law, side with those who interfere with the law, and cultivate an atmosphere that is hostile to the rule of law, and will inspire more leftist crazies to commit violence and assassination in the name of "values" as they say. The left manipulates all reality, including language to undermine the law. If the left were silent and lawful there would be nothing to see.
Sort of like pardoning over a thousand violent rioters?
I hope you know that no violent protestors should ever be permitted. Stay on topic.
I do know that—but it appears you're too intellectually limited to realize your entire diatribe applies to Trump and the GOP, who proactively PARDONED the people exhibiting the very type of behavior you denounce. Not a single Dem went that far lmaooooo
imagine supporting trump and still appealing to the rule of law
I agree with this essay and with your criticism of MAGA generally - it's both accurate and necessary.
However, I have to admit "AWFUL" is a pretty clever acronym. Gotta give credit where it's due.
Years ago my libertarian mentor argued that forcing races together via mass immigration often creates friction and this is what we see. To be clear, I’m not arguing it’s remotely as bad as many conservatives claim (i.e., we do not see Balkanization), but the fact that it’s an important political issue across the West proves his point well enough. Woke folks react to this racial friction by declaring that racism is “immoral” and commit to endless social engineering and moral browbeating to (finally!) bring it to an end. In this regard they are like conservatives who want to stamp out porn.
Hanania says he’s fine with “personal” racism but, oddly, also argues, like many woke folks, that racism is stupid because it’s based on “superficial” physical traits; yet, he will also defend women who choose mates based on “superficial” traits like height, so his argument is plainly contradictory. He probably doesnt see the contradiction because he likely thinks personal choices are different from banning immigrants; therefore, elites need to enforce their preferences as a form of paternalism in the name of immigrant rights. However, this ignores the fundamental question: Who owns the streets/roads?
Although Hanania is libertarian adjacent, he tends to think in collectivist terms when it comes to what national policies should be pursued under statism. Therefore, the question of who owns the streets is neither here nor there for him, as “liberal” values/anti-racism supersede such concerns when you are not fully libertarian. This opens the door to imposing one’s own policy preferences in the name of “liberalism” without regard for property rights. In this sense, he is like liberals who talk about a “right” to healthcare, state-enforced equal opportunity, etc. without seeking to square it with a coherent view of liberty overall.
Hanania will no doubt argue that of course you can control who enters your home/yard (in order to exercise your superficial and stupid personal racism), but doesn’t explain why property rights don’t include the streets/roads. Being a statist (even a neoliberal one) means you can bypass such concerns to impose your own preferences while morally browbeating others.
This is no defense of ICE but the anti-immigration cause is not without merit within a libertarian framework.
ICE should be professional, less confrontational and focus on those taking advantage of safety nets which were never designed for immigrants.
Less raids on employers, and more demanding to get records on every illegal immigrant getting free health care in California.
Dream on
I still come back to this being a race issue—white privilege, a term I normally hate, applies. All the other commentary falls from this. You’ve obstructed and taunted and are now being approached by armed law enforcement. If you are a POC (another term I hate but works here) you know what to do. Freeze and hands on the dashboard. It’s only from the sense of entitlement that make you think you can drive away with an armed officer anywhere near your path. Regardless of how you feel about the overall ICE actions or protesters what she did was terminally dumb.
Obama gave Tom Homan top honours and a medal in 2015 for the same work. Now Dems call Homan and his dept evil cuz he now has a boss they hate. Terrible hypocrisy. Radicals cycling through positions trying to take down Trump are neurotic and destructive.
People protested ICE back in the day under Obama; yes, it was harder to get people to protest them because it was a Dem President, and Dems are perceived as "better" on immigration. However, the people who protested ICE under Obama did not get shot in the head, so he had that going for him.
Obstruction, threats, incitement, and violence are not protest. Anti-ICE criminality is obviously a problem. This is just your new anti-racism hysteria. Dem strategy of open borders insanity as a base-building method is treachery. Left wing extremist activity and systemic indoctrination into anti-western ideologies have both skyrocketed since 2015. You all got wayyyy too radical for the majority to stomach.
Multiple polls show the majority of people think that Renee Good was an unjustified shooting - and 70-80+% of the population have seen the video! - but just repeat your talking points I guess.
The lies and hysteria began almost immediately— Trump declaring the ICE agent was in the hospital, Vance declaring it was self-defense, Noem declaring ICE has complete immunity and media pretending the videos didn’t show what they obviously did show.
But we have a significant segment of the country primed for this justification of violence and glorification of vigilante justice. Punishment for “not following orders” and men dressed in riot gear with faces masked has been normalized. Does no one remember the draconian, irrational rules during covid and the public shaming, violence (in some cases) and complete intolerance for disagreement?
It’s the same playbook but now directed at anyone who dares question the methods employed to enforce immigration laws without losing their mind and shooting someone.
Do not obstruct LEOs. Protest peacefully and lawfully. That's literally all you have to do to prevent future incidents like this one. Why can't you manage that? You seem to want death, insurrection, and civil war. It is awful to watch leftists spinning out of control like this. Seek and teach temperance.
Even Somalis born here and have paper citizenship should be sent back. The fraud is irrelevant.
What on earth is “paper” citizenship for someone born in the US?
Dr Naomi Wolf remains a feminist who believes in a woman's right to choose to remain pregnant too and when the evidence was clear that Covid vaccinations were increasing the rate of miscarriage across a number of countries she stood by her principles and spoke up.
Excellent post, although I'm unconvinced by the last sentence. I would change: "Whoever is coming next will be, by necessity, smarter than Trump" to "Whoever is coming next will *likely* be, by *default*, smarter than Trump"
And I'm not trying to be funny/petty! I think it is both unnecessary for the successor to be smart (as pathos is the defining feature of the movement) AND that the successor will probably be smarter given the baseline. In a perverse way, we were lucky Trump is such a shallow thinker. He's not as dangerous as a calculating dictator like Putin or Assad would have been in the same scenario.