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Gurwinder's avatar

Hey Richard, thank you for your critique of my tweet. I actually agree with you that "prior" should sometimes be used instead of "assumption", and "stochastic" should sometimes be used instead of "random". If you read my tweet again, you'll see that I only advised against using the obscurer word in cases where you could just use the simpler word (i.e. where it wouldn't significantly change the meaning of the sentence).

I also agree with you that language isn't always about saying what you mean (though I think it should be). You say you want to signal your intelligence, and, well, you succeed in that -- I do find you intelligent -- not because you use clever words but because you use clear words to say things that are clever.

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I agree that "prior" both denotes and connotes something rather different from "assumption", but I think Gurwinder may be reacting to widespread misuse of the former word. The rationalist sphere is overflowing with cargo cultists who love to dress up their perfectly ordinary human intuition (i.e. biases, spite and fundamental attribution errors) with a superficial veneer of Bayesian-style language. This was brought home to me by the recent kerfuffle over the EA startup Nonlinear (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/bwtpBFQXKaGxuic6Q/effective-aspersions-how-the-nonlinear-investigation-went), in which various figures involved were prone to framing their intuitive gut feelings as the product of careful, disinterested statistical reasoning: "But I think it would still have over a 40% chance of irreparably harming your relationship with Drew"; "Nonlinear's threatening to sue Lightcone for Ben's post is completely unacceptable, decreases my sympathy for them by about 98%". It's a linguistic device intended to give the appearance of solidity to pure wind, a verbal tic no different from the habitual misuse of the word "literally", or concluding a statement by tacking on the word "FACT" at the end in a tone of voice meant to sound definitive and unanswerable. What does it MEAN to say that doing such-and-such has a 40%+ chance of irreparably harming one's relationship with X? I'm in a rationalist WhatsApp group in which I saw someone use the phrase "I have pretty irrational priors on..." without so much as a glimmer of irony or self-awareness. When even the people using the word "prior" are openly admitting that their alleged "priors" are irrational, it seems reasonable to point out that "assumption" or "gut feeling" might capture the intended (or actual) sentiment better than "prior".

If you're discussing some empirical question, and you've done the work of digging through reams of data on said question before the discussion began, by all means use "prior". If you haven't (because you're lazy, or because no relevant data actually exists, or the question isn't really an empirical question at all) don't pretend you have - just be honest and say "assumption" or "gut feeling" or "intuition".

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