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To be fair, democracy DOES threaten individual rights and liberty. Your property and even your life in some cases (like criminal justice stuff) is up for a vote. It's a garbage system that no true libertarian could defend.

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There's another strand to populist libertarianism, which is that on the assumption elites control the government,* libertarianism or anarchism of some form should be the default populist position. Attacking that thing elites control which takes a chunk of your paycheque, monopolises force and can tell ordinary people what to do is way more straightforward than attacking a vague uncoordinated nebula academics and tastemakers whose impact on ordinary people is indirect and hard to quantify.

I think this explains two further puzzle pieces. First, the libertarian-adjacent aspects of European populists in spite of them not having much of a libertarian intellectual framework (although some of this is copy-pasted from the US and East of the Elbe it's largely anti-communist). Second, the 180 you point to as soon as the government is "non-elite" is because that's when libertarian=populist breaks down. Ironically, kakistocracy has largely been the trigger for a lot of people to finally learn to love the government because it finally looks like them.

The killer jujitsu move now would be to libertarianise the left using ICE authoritarianism and whatever decaying remnants of woke capital are still lying around. "The more money woke Google keeps for Gemini, the less Drumpf has to spend on concentration camps" or something.

*Whether this is a tautology or not depends on which of the varying definitions of elite you're using. Here it should have the reference of well-socialised industrious upper middle class people but with the sense of smug metropolitans who look down on ordinary people.

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