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This seems about right, and the observation about spoilers is apt. Egypt and Jordan are willing to clamp down on diehards and prevent a spoiler effect from their own borders, which is why Israel hasn't fought another war with them in 50 years. Though the fact they won't accept Palestinian refugees or annex Palestine is also why the problem is interminable.

Part of the reason Egypt and Jordan are willing to maintain peace is that they have a corrupt leadership class that's wary of the Islamists and that doesn't want its military wrecked in any more wars, but I imagine another reason is that those countries have an entire life and existence that's independent of Israel. If you're a typical Muslim living in Cairo, sure you hate the Israelis, but you also have the ability to tune them out. They have nothing to do with your daily life or the life of anyone you know. If they disappeared tomorrow, nothing would change. So most of the time, while you're annoyed at your government for not doing more, it's one of many things about your government that annoys you. Not something you're prepared to risk your life over at this moment. In the end, you enjoy living in a stable society.

If you're a Palestinian, Israel isn't something you can ignore, it actually does do things that screw up your life and the lives of people you know, and it's easy to blame all the problems in the world on it. You can't really build a political coalition around anything besides wanting to be rid of Israel, which means that you have limits to how harsh you can be towards people whose only sin is hating Israel more than you.

There's no two-state solution; either Israel one day swallows the Palestinian poison-pill (whether as an act of national murder or suicide) and becomes Lebanon 2.0, or the Palestinians are eventually expelled or annexed into one or more functioning states. Until then, the status quo prevails. Which is livable for Israel, so long as it keeps its guard up.

To be clear, I'm not really as pro-Israel as Richard seems to be these days. It's probably more in the US national interest to try to cultivate better relations with the Arabs and create some distance from Israel. I naturally find the Israelis more sympathetic, but I can sympathize with the Palestinians too.

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Tamritz's avatar

You are clearly an excellent candidate for the role of National Security Advisor in the upcoming Trump administration

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